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ABC’s ‘The View’ Hosts Exposed Their Ignorance By Completely Botching the Meaning of ‘Separation of Church and State’ [VIDEO]

Never has there been a group more consistently wrong than this group of hosts.

ABC’s “The View” is hosted by a group of illiterates. They believe things are a part of the law because they’re really good ideas that they support.

Case in point. Joy Behar asked, “Don’t we have Separation of Church and State?”

Whoopi Goldberg chimed in, “Not anymore.” HINT: It was never in the Constitution.

Behar then says, “I mean, [Justice] Clarence Thomas needs to have a seance, have Thomas Jefferson there, and Alexander Hamilton.” Behar then acted like she was on the phone (I guess that’s how she would communicate during a seance) saying, “Hello? Do we still have Separation of Church and State here, it’s in the Constitution?”

You can read the entire Constitution. You can hold it up to the light, upside down, and pour lemon juice on it, and like abortion, you will not find the words Separation of Church and State or any variation or even a notion of it in there.

Sonny Hostin, who is supposed to be a lawyer, and is a Senior Legal Correspondent and Analyst for ABC News, agreed, saying, “It is. It’s a First Amendment guarantee. We don’t seem to have that anymore.”


Yikes! The View hosts demonstrated that they’re not just religious illiterates, but historical illiterates as well.

I don’t know where Hostin got the idea that Separation of Church and State is in the First Amendment.

The first clause of the First Amendment says, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”

In the immortal words of Slim Pickens, “What in the wide, wide world o’ sports is a goin’ on here?” Where did Sonny Hostin get that the First Amendment means there is a Separation of Church and State? The liberal argument is that Separation of Church and State means you cannot have religion in public or government life and that religion shouldn’t influence once’s political decisions. It is the dumbest argument a lawyer can make, and that’s saying something.

The First Amendment says that the United States can not have an established religion because the Founding Fathers did not want any single religion to be given preferential treatment by the government, which means that every other religion would receive non-preferential treatment. And the second part of the clause that liberals always forget, says, “or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” which negates the very point of the Left’s flawed Separation of Church and State argument.

Behar calling on Thomas Jefferson to support her argument makes her sound like the south end of a northbound horse.

Jefferson was the one who proposed what is known as “The Separation Clause” to president James Madison at the time. We know the very reason why Jefferson and Madison accepted the idea of Jefferson’s Separation Clause because both men toured the country together, talking about it and giving speeches to spread the word of their idea.

The reason why Jefferson proposed the idea to Madison was because he had just finished writing a response letter to the Danbury Baptist Church. The church had written to Jefferson to ask for help because their state was creating laws that were not friendly to their religion. Jefferson wrote back that while he was empathetic to their plight, there was nothing he could do because the First Amendment says that the federal government cannot establish a religion, yet states can do whatever they wanted.

“I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church and State,” Jefferson said.

The metaphor “wall of separation” that Jefferson used was not intended to say that religion should not influence opinion on government issues. Instead, it was used to affirm free religious practice for citizens.

Here is the real meaning of Thomas Jefferson’s separation of church and state proposal to then president James Madison. After he wrote the letter to the Danbury Baptist Church, Jefferson started thinking that they had just created this new form of government, the federal government. Back then, before the United states was an actual country, each colony had adopted its own religion. For example, Virginia was an Anglican colony/state. In its charter or state Constitution, if you will, it said that any man trying to run for office in Virginia had to be of the Anglican faith. All the colonies did this. In fact, Pennsylvania, which was the most liberal state at the time, said in its charter that any man wishing to hold public office in Pennsylvania had to give affirmation to a Supreme Creator.

Colonies, and then the states, would use tax money to purchase bibles for churches or even help to build churches. Why did they do that? Because that’s what they did back in England.

Of course, Jefferson knew this. What he feared was that the newly formed federal Congress would adopt its own religion and then try to supersede it over all the States and their adopted religions. All Jefferson was saying in the Separation Clause was that there needed to be a wall of separation between the federal government and the states and their respective religions. That’s it.

Everyone understood this until the 20th century, when the liberals took it to court and screwed it all up with activist judges who argued that the Separation Clause meant that you can no longer have things like a Christmas tree in a government building. Even so, there is no law for Separation of Church and State. It’s doesn’t exist in the Constitution and it doesn’t exist in federal law.

How do we know that Jefferson was not saying that there could not be religious things in government buildings? If he truly did believe that, then why did he create a church inside the Capitol building in the House of Representatives? Jefferson’s church became the most popular church in the country, servicing over 2,000 patrons every Sunday. The church was non-denominational and a pastor from a different religion each week would say the mass. This way, Congress was not making any law that established a religion.

If religion is not supposed to be involved in government, then why do they use the Holy Bible when swearing in as a newly elected official? Why do people swear to tell the truth in a court of law with their hand on the Holy Bible?

Jefferson and Madison weren’t the only ones who believed that God had a place in the halls of government. Benjamin Franklin, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson would kneel to pray over the Declaration of Independence.

President George Washington believed that the fate of the new United States rested with its citizens’ fidelity to God. That is why he dedicated America to God.

In fact, the Jefferson church inside the Capitol building became so popular that he created another church in the war department building and then a third one inside the treasury building. So much for Jefferson believing religion and government could not mix. It was a one-way street where the government could not interfere in religion, but religion could have a place in government.

James Madison, as president, continued to go to that church inside the Capitol building.

Rich Welsh

Rich is a conservative, syndicated opinion writer and owner of He writes about politics, culture, liberty, and faith.

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